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Blue Blur

First Gen Iii Build, 420/6.1 Going In Old Mopar

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 Got a 06 6.1 in pieces that had dropped a valve with the understanding that the block un-harmed and he had all new parts to fix what was needed. This was last Sept. and long story short the block needed .010 to clean up. So then I see Andy at PWR had a used cam and a new set of Manley 4.065 stroker pistons for sale for $700 shipped for all. So that got the ball rolling and I have since purchased the Manley 4.05 crank, rods with ARP 2000's, Manley pushrods, Nextek springs, Comp moly retainers and some good used lifters. Just got done re-configuring the oil squirters and notching the piston skirts to all live happily ever after together. Then I call Andy to see where my rings and spring locators have been for 2 months I picked his brain about some need to know on this build. SO long story short I am right now gonna get the block hot tanked again and another set of cam bearings installed after I clearanced the block for #7 rod bolt clearance and dirtied her up with shavings. ARGH!! Better now than later though right? Plan to have MM cnc the heads after I get the short done and maybe button this old lady up soon. Here are some pics for your viewing pleasure.

Mock up in car...

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Remote filter and oil cooler plumbing..

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EFISource 92MM TB and breather tank mocked up..

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Intake hand ported a little...

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Intake PC'd and 80lb Dekas installed..

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Modded oil jet sitting under a stock 6.4 jet..

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First piston to get notched..

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Welcome to MMF! This is a little wilder place than Moparts but you will get quite a bit of info on the Gen III's here!

What it that on your throttle body?

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Welcome to MMF! This is a little wilder place than Moparts but you will get quite a bit of info on the Gen III's here!

What it that on your throttle body?

Thanks everyone, the throttle body has an IAC sticking out of it. I have since flipped it 180 degrees.

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Man, what an intro.  I cannot get enough of the new gen going into old iron.

 

6 speed makes it ultimate cool.  Keep posting pics and build info -- love that shit.

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Thanks guys, I will do my best to keep things up to date. Thanks for the interest. Car is gonna also get a cage to because its one of those better to have it and not need it deals. SO because of that my next spring deadline is gonna be tough to hit. Right now im gonna focus on getting the short block completed with accessories and all. Then I will focus on cage, engine compartment and wiring. The 6 spd is from an 06 Viper and was already run when the car was Big Block powered. Im building this car to embarrass Vipers and Vettes on the road course.

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Sounds like a fun project. Who's suspension you using? I have a 68 Coronet pro touring project that is getting and aluminum 440 gen III hemi and A580 trans over the winter.

 

J

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It is stock based suspension. It currently has FF 1.06" T-bars, RMS UCA's and strut rods, Hotchkis Front sway, welded K member,Borgeson steering box, Hotchkis rear springs and Hotchkis 1.5" shocks. Gonna run that after the car is back on the road to see how the cage changes the cars feel and tire plant.

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I have the full Hotchkis suspension with Wilwood brakes on my car. 1.03 t bars. Seems pretty good right now. Going to see how much the new aluminum motor and tubular k frame change things and make adjustments from there. Putting the borgeson box in at the same time.

 

J

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That's good to know. The 1.03 were the biggest when I got mine. I just dont want to over spring the car once I put the lightweight engine and k frame in. I also run the QA1 tubular lower control arms. Going with thier k frame as well. I want to keep the stock suspension if I can. I got the borgeson steering coupler from Bergman. It's a nice part.

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Love the Bee's, my brother HAD a 69 1/2. Here is a pic during a parade loaded up with kiddies from last year...

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Here was a final mock up pic before everything came back apart for final assembly.

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Thanks. I have TTI headers and mounts for the swap. Biggest issue is going to be the A580. I can't find any information on putting one in. I have a built trans with stand alone controller and harness. Just wondering about mounting, clearance and the shifter. It's going in one way or another though! lol

 

J

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You most likely with have to make a new torsion bar crossmember, I did with my T56. Here are the mounts I made for the engine and a pic of the trans back when I was doing it a couple years ago.

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