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Moparmafia83

Challenger Hellcat Vs 2017 Zl1 Camaro

I've seen many post of the Chevy guys crying . the camaro doesn't have near the deficit from manual to auto that the challengers have the camaro ss is actually faster as a stick shift , but I do agree that they need to running auto vs auto. The hellcat looks like it pulls harder to me

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I'm going to wager the Hellcat will always be faster unless that 10 speed auto coming for the ZL1 is just amazing at keeping the car in the torque curve.

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Did they really think about the fact that a manual 6 camero vs the auto cat would match well. U should see all the rattle over on the camero site lol

 

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477346&page=4

 

 

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Yeah but it seems like every comparison test I've seen with the Hellcat they usually use a manual Hellcat against a Camaro/Shelby or what ever they are testing it against.  I've always found that somewhat frustrating because I want to see a fastest to fastest comparison, so if the automatic is faster than they should use that to compare to the top dog of the competitor.  So I guess it doesn't bother me that the shoe is on the other foot for once B).  But that said it will be interesting to see an automatic to automatic comparison, but what ever the results it will be short lived because the 2018 ADR's will be out soon and I think it's going to pretty much hammer the ZL1..

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ADR?

 

 

ADR, American Drag racer, not talking about the AWD six cylinder car.  Lot's of speculation as to the HP figure on it, on the Hellcat forum resume speed just has a blank space for the moment as motors output.  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/

 

Allpar has a thread on it here:  https://www.allpar.com/forums/threads/wide-body-challenger.166442/ 

 

Various known insiders have some hints as to HP etc.. in that thread.  Here's a few hints from the thread:

 

oh2o said:  ADRHP = "A lot more than 707, and a lot less than 1,000"

 
redriderbob said:

ADR will be a decontent version of the other wide body Challenger. From what I hear, it will be the first time that line lock will be offered on the Challenger. Also in the UConnect settings there will be a special features for the drag strip in the SRT settings for the suspension and other things...

 

oh20 answer to above:

You'll be able to order the ADR somewhat "decontented", but for those that want the creature comforts, one will be able to load it up very nicely.

 

Smitman said:

 Rear seat delete? Cage? Front skinnies? I am also wondering if you will have options in UConnect to keep your ET's under 10.00 ( NHRA cage rules), by dialing down boost.

 

oh20 response: Rear seat delete, yes. No cage. P315/40R18 x 4. Not sure about the UConnect settings.

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Resume speed posted a picture (post 129) would assume it has some relevance to the ADR  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-9

 

posts 169, 170 by resume speed:  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-12

 

The Hellcat wide body will use 305's. ADR should have 315's.

 
WB will be an optional package on the Challenger Hellcat models.
 
How much more power? How much different than standard hellcat? When the numbers are officially announced, you'll may want to plan to be sitting down.
 
Some numbers have been given as a hint on allpar, they list 981, 863, 188 lot's of speculation there and on the Hellcat forum as to the meaning.  Rayzazoos guess:  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-17
 
981
863
188

I think these numbers need to be deciphered top to bottom by column.

9.81 sec 1/4mi
868 rwhp (900-925 hp)
138 mph

4400-4450 lbs
315/40/18 Nitto NT05R

No backseat
Seat belt harness (like the ones at Bondurant) or roll cage.

It begs to question, what would the factory do to give a Hellcat a 200 rwhp jump?
 
I can't believe some of you guy's have missed the rumor mill on this, it's almost as if you were spending too much time playing with Camaro's or something :rolleyes::PB)

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I was just waiting for a surprise somewhere in the video. Apples to apples would be the best way to do this but I still think the bow tie crowd will be watching that cat walk away from them

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Resume speed posted a picture (post 129) would assume it has some relevance to the ADR  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-9

 

posts 169, 170 by resume speed:  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-12

 

The Hellcat wide body will use 305's. ADR should have 315's.

 
WB will be an optional package on the Challenger Hellcat models.
 
How much more power? How much different than standard hellcat? When the numbers are officially announced, you'll may want to plan to be sitting down.
 
Some numbers have been given as a hint on allpar, they list 981, 863, 188 lot's of speculation there and on the Hellcat forum as to the meaning.  Rayzazoos guess:  http://www.hellcat.org/threads/2018-dodge-challenger-information-thread.48473/page-17
 
981

863

188

 

I think these numbers need to be deciphered top to bottom by column.

 

9.81 sec 1/4mi

868 rwhp (900-925 hp)

138 mph

 

4400-4450 lbs

315/40/18 Nitto NT05R

 

No backseat

Seat belt harness (like the ones at Bondurant) or roll cage.

 

It begs to question, what would the factory do to give a Hellcat a 200 rwhp jump?

 
I can't believe some of you guy's have missed the rumor mill on this, it's almost as if you were spending too much time playing with Camaro's or something :rolleyes::PB)

 

 

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