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[Speedy]

http://www.lxforums....58/#post3774810

This should be interesting haha

[SRT5939]

fuck them jerk offs, only one question needs to answered, When can we tune our own cars?

[Jay6spdRT]

Sounds like another waste of fucking time. Not one of my questions was answered in the last chat, because my questions didn't relate to the gas mileage of a Grand Cherokee with a fucking surf-board strapped to the top, or whatever most of those bullshit questions were.

[Boatman]

I haven't participated in any of them yet and I don't think I will start today.

[Speedy]

This one's different than that joke of a chat session last time where they screened questions. I like the ones where they're on the forum. If they don't answer your questions, it's telling.

I posted up about the timing pull on shift for the 6 speeds along with a screen shot of my data log. We'll see if they touch that one.

[Speedy]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spenvose

Why cant the Challengers come with a convienance spare tire in the car. The mini compressor is useless.

Why cant the after market make tuners for the 392 Challengers.
Thanks
1) The minispare does not clear the front brake caliper. Looking at the frequency of needing a spare tire these days and the fact that everyone has a cellphone to call for a tow, it is not worth carrying the extra weight. Feel free to install the minispare and jack out of the regular Challenger. If you get a flat on the front, put the minispare on the rear, and put your good rear tire on the front.

2) They haven't broken the code, yet. It is a rolling code, like your garage door opener!

[Jay6spdRT]

What does a 'rolling code' mean?

[Boatman]

SHeesh kinda dicky answer

[Jay6spdRT]

Boatman, on 21 September 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

SHeesh kinda dicky answer

Ya think?

[Speedy]

This has to be a joke answer. Airflow buck bobble?

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Since you've changed a lot on your engine, the airflow fed buck bobble calibrations are off causing this. The 6spd cars are very sensitive to this, which is why they are calibrated as they are in production. When you start changing parts that affect airflow, these things can happen...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy!

2009 6 Speed Challenger Arrington forged 6.0L stroker Magnuson blower

I've noticed in my data logs from the drag strip that my car is losing an exorbitant amount of timing after I shift gears and it takes 1.5 - 2 seconds to start to recover. I'm talking single digit timing after a shift here and it's killing the 6 speed's ability to perform on the track as compared to the auto.

This isn't isolated to just my car, every 6 speed data log I've seen is doing the same thing.

Can you give some insight on why this is occurring on only the 6 speed cars and not the autos? Is it torque mgmt or something else and can you give any insight on how to defeat it? The car is in dyno mode, which I thought defeated all torque mgmt?

Auto cars with similar mods are running .5 - .7 better ETs and I believe this has a lot to do with it.

Here's a screen capture of a data log showing the issue. Note the car dropped to 4.5 degrees of timing after a shift and I'm at WOT. Green line is actual spark cyl 1 pid, purple is throttle blade position, and brown is MAP. The highlighted area of the log is the 2-3 shift point showing 4.5 degrees of actual timing. Car has ZERO KR.



Another interesting one. Looks like upgrading to SRT brakes on RTs isn't the best idea.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer Harry

I own a 2010 300C and was wondering is it possible to install the brembo brakes from the SRT8 300? Will the stock 300C master cylinder and proportioning valve work with the Brembos? What other changes will be required?
Thanks

Upgrading to a SRT brake components is a quagmire. The calipers won't even bolt up to the knuckles, which are SRT unique. On top of that, the ESC calibration is TOTALLY different, and your base ESC controller will ramp in way too much pressure to control the car. Same with ABS because the SRT brakes are significantly more effective. You really need a wrecked SRT to take the whole ABS system and front and rear knuckles off of. There is no prop valve on cars anymore. That is handled electronically via EBD.

[Jay6spdRT]

Speedy, on 21 September 2011 - 03:58 PM, said:

This has to be a joke answer. Airflow buck bobble?

Here's some info on buck bobbles -

[Phinatic]

Speedy, on 21 September 2011 - 03:58 PM, said:

This has to be a joke answer. Airflow buck bobble?

Yes, no such thing. I thought that was a pretty shitty answer myself...I thought they could do much better than that.

[Swaggernaught]

What a total joke. They answer most of the dumb questions that can be answered with a search and not the important ones. They say they don't believe in limits. Explain the locked 2011+ models then. I call bullshit.

[toofart]

What a fucking joke x2. How useless.

I wonder if Dodge will be surprised when they discover they can't break the code to increased sales.

[Renfrick1]

I posted. Tried to down load a performance tune on my 20011 challenger and got an era code. Can you tell me why ? And it was deleted.they Said I was retarded.

[HemiSam]

The famed SRT buck bobble they have to eat during training...




J - don't believe too much B.S. on the brakes. I've got a big brake kit and the ABS works perfectly fine. Obviously I shut it down or largely negate it when I'm circle tracking or straight line racing, but why would SRT brakes be much different than an aftermarket kit in that regard??? A bunch of corporate hoaky. Might as well have attorneys on the chat sessions. Hell, maybe they do...

HemiSam

[lakersfan7272]

Did that bobble comment they made make any sense to anyone ?

[runner2go]

Renfrick1, on 21 September 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

I posted. Tried to down load a performance tune on my 20011 challenger and got an era code. Can you tell me why ? And it was deleted.they Said I was retarded.

I saw the deleted comment with the retarded comment... I wondered wtf it was.

It's pretty obvious that they don't give a shit about anyone wanting to put on a tune.
And are either too self absorbed or stupid to realize it will hurt sales on the 2011+ cars.
They're also either being complete dicks (hence the ) or they are planning to sell tunes straight from Mopar Performance.
Because it was pretty much the underlining theme to the questioning... and they basically ignored all comments related to it.

[Jay6spdRT]

lakersfan7272, on 21 September 2011 - 09:18 PM, said:

Did that bobble comment they made make any sense to anyone ?

Maybe SohFast, AJ or Blown7 could shed some light?

Even if it is a 'real' table, cars that are not modified are pulling timing as well, not just modified engines.

[HemiSam]

Exactly, Jim. It's hoaky and they were giving the proverbial finger....bummer.

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