Drag Pack Vs Ritter/modern Muscle Manifold

[Hemi~C~ 19]

All, doing some research on big HP 3G Hemi builds and noticed some are using the Ritter/MM manifold and others the MOPAR Drag Pack. Can anyone who has had hands on both give me the pros/cons/differences between the two? Costs???

Thanks,

Chris

[Don@Arrington 17]

They are pretty much the same. really the only difference is they have to be machined. We have the same castings and all we do is run them through the CNC machine.

[turbofreek 27]

They are pretty much the same. really the only difference is they have to be machined. We have the same castings and all we do is run them through the CNC machine.

Can you elaborate some??? Which intake needs machined and where?

[Don@Arrington 17]

I know. Wait till Monday and I will get a proper statement

[Dave Weber 2]

The Drag pack is machined for injectors and has cast in supports similar to the 6.1 manifold for fuel rails

The Ritter intake needs to be machined for injectors and a system to support fuel rails.

Provisions for MAP also need to be added.

FYI this is a shelf item as cast and machined for EFI.

If you want to shoot me an email I can send you pictures of both.

We are getting ready to dyno a MM stage 3 6.1 intake to a ported Rittter intake on a 462 NA next week so stay tuned.

[Dave Weber 2]

I know. Wait till Monday and I will get a proper statement

Hey Don we never sleep

couldn't resist

[Don@Arrington 17]

No prob Dave .

[Hemi~C~ 19]

Thanks Don and Dave for the responses. Exactly what I was looking for and surmised from the pics I have seen so far Dave.

Chris

[Hemi~C~ 19]

The Drag pack is machined for injectors and has cast in supports similar to the 6.1 manifold for fuel rails

The Ritter intake needs to be machined for injectors and a system to support fuel rails.

Provisions for MAP also need to be added.

FYI this is a shelf item as cast and machined for EFI.

If you want to shoot me an email I can send you pictures of both.

We are getting ready to dyno a MM stage 3 6.1 intake to a ported Rittter intake on a 462 NA next week so stay tuned.

Dave, did you guys ever pull this test off? If so what were the results? Same NA size build I am currently considering, with a bit of nitrous up top. I know folks have had great results with ported SRT8 manifolds in big hp builds but I have a hard time believing it still wins out on avg hp/tq 4500-7000 rpm in a big inch build like described above.

Anyone with before/after data?

Chris

[Hemi31 194]

We did the drag pak vs ported 6.1 on a 468. The drag pak made a few more hp but lost a bunch of torque down low. We were only spinning the motor to 6800 rpm though. The loss of low end torque was enough to not pursue it on the combo.

[FST HEMI 0]

I would like to see the new dual plane OCP Intake see some dyno comparison. They say the dual plane don't lose much TQ.

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[Modern Muscle 14]

It doesnt gain anything either, The OCP intake was designed for the Resto-mods and it main goal was to keep the HP and TQ Like stock

[Rat Patrol 1]

Regards the Ritter 'shorty' drag pack intake - is there any data on how much torque it sacrifices cmpared to the factory 6.1 efi intake?

[no1special 36]

It largely depends on cam selection and how high your going to spin it. If your going over 7000, then you have a 4500 or better converter and the loss of the low end torque is bypassed mostly by the torque converter. Like Erik was saying....if your spinning the motor 6800 or less, a ported factory intake will best suit you. 7200 or more...the Ritter/drag pack will be th clear window.